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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 9, 2012 11:27am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

1) The Tea Party over promised and underperformed. Perhaps 1 in 3 Americans had heard of of the Tea Party, but outright support? Clearly that was not the case. All the blathering from the Bat Fastard Rush Limbaugh notwithstanding.

2) Pulling >10% at a poll is one thing. 10% of an entire population sample set understanding an issue is completely different.

Malcolm Gladwell, author of "Tipping Point" does a much better job of sorting out and explaining the impact of Connectors, Mavens and Salesmen.

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Poster: Deadhead225 Date: Oct 10, 2012 7:29pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Read Creature From Jekyl Island by Griffin (1st edition recommended as it was pre-financial crisis with no opportunity to point to any revisionist history) and Forgotten Man by Amity Shlaes. The combination of these two with Gladwell will be all you will ever need to know about the monetary/political system. Objective historical perspectives that illustrate near identical patterns to modern events. No party, central bank or Govt. can successfully manipulate markets or economic forces. The harder they try the deeper in trouble they get. Once the $ runs short enough things always tend to get worked out. It just means there is fuel for the attempted manipulation. It aint pretty, but it gets worked out.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 11, 2012 7:54am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

I've read Creature, but not Shales and it's funny, I suppose, I came to a different conclusion about the ability of an unregulated central (debt based) banking system to manipulate the market(s). Perhaps not in the classic sense of bubble creation like Greenspan did, but certainly as spiral consequences of "fiscal policies".

I do agree with you on "It ain't pretty, but it gets worked out."

I just see it more likely that it gets worked out via failed policy and systemic collapse rather than successful policy.

Getcha popcorn ready, it's gonna be an interesting couple of years.

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Oct 11, 2012 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Hey Mando,

I agree with you on all your topics but I hope it does not come true. Both the Dems and Repubs suck, they both use their base to keep their power but anyway I am writing to thank you for your recomendations when I was in VA beach this summer, they were excellent between you and some others my family and I ate like Kings and Queens and enjoyed our vacation there, so much so that we are planning to come back down next summer. I should have posted this much earlier so I apologize for not doing this sooner and when I got back Football season started (I coach at the HS level) and life became very busy but Thanks again! have a great weekend and let's hope this "gets fixed" but I don't think either Romney or Obama can fix it, I especially think Obama can not! but who knows maybe I am wrong!

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 11, 2012 12:35pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Glad you enjoyed the visit. Given enough advance notice we can plan to have a beer or two or a dinner next summer. As long as it's not at the end of July when I will be encamped at FloydFest XII!!

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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Oct 11, 2012 12:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Sounds like a plan Mando!

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 9, 2012 11:41am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Around 18% of Americans consider themselves to be supporters of the Tea Party. Something like four in ten voters said they supported the TP movement in 2010 midterm exit polls.

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Poster: Mandojammer Date: Oct 9, 2012 12:00pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

But did they understand the issues? That drives change. Cheerleading does not.

If 10% of Americans truly understood the implications of our debt based, fractional reserve monetary system and banking industry there would be a revolution tomorrow. (Parapharsed somewhat from some famous old dead guy)


Instead, "I'll get to it right after I get caught up on Jersey Shore"

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Poster: snow_and_rain Date: Oct 9, 2012 12:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Looking for some political fire

Given the issues that seemed to drive support for the Tea Party, I'd say that they most definitely did not understand them. They didn't even understand that those weren't real issues.

Revolutions need leaders, and leaders need ideas that normal people can relate to. I don't see much of that out there right now.

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